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Usenet Mac Digest        Saturday, 24 January 1987     Volume 3 : Issue 6

Today's Topics:
     WriteNow
     Re: ChipWits
     Mac pics
     Re: Mac+ to DMP 105 Printer or Other Printers???? HELP!!!!
     Re: ChipWits
     Need Irish Font!!
     68000 Development System Info Needed
     Re: Typing tutors for Mac
     Re: WriteNow
     MicroSoft f77
     mac parallel output?
     Re: Porting IBM PC Applications (really MacApp)
     Help - Mac floppy repair/replace info needed
     Left Handed MacPaint
     PostScript source (in c for example) wanted
     Re: ChipWits
     Helix & Double Helix
     Fall 1986 BMUG Newsletter?
     Re: Hard disks
     Re: HalfTone
     Re: Please explain TextEdit feature...
     Re: IBM PC -> Imagewriter
     Re: Need Irish Font!!
     Re: Typing tutors for Mac
     Re: mac parallel output?
     Re: Irish Font
     Mac memory upgrades
     Re: Mac+ to DMP 105 Printer or Other Printers???? HELP!!!!
     Lightspeed C debugger
     DA to draw HFS tree?
     uw question
     Need Comparative Info on AMIGA vs. MAC+ for use in a MIDI system

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From: [e-mail] (Steven J. Russell)
Subject: WriteNow
Date: 17 Jan 87 22:50:47 GMT
Organization: Reed College, Portland OR

Does anybody out there have any information on WriteNow, the word processor?

Do you think that I should buy WriteNow now, or wait for MS Word 3.0?
Why?

thanks

--
Steven J. Russell
"Simplicity is the goal of the advancement of technology"

UUCP:   ...!tektronix!reed!cutler


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From: [e-mail] (Howard C. Simonson)
Subject: Re: ChipWits
Date: 18 Jan 87 03:05:07 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corp, Sunnyvale CA

It is not hopeless!!  Chipwits will work under the new ROMs, just strangely.
The way to do it is, make an MFS Ramdisk (or floppy I guess) with a System
and Finder so it will be the Startup disk.  When Chipwits is double clicked,
it will clear the screen and seem to hang.  Clicking the mouse seems to
get it going (don't ask me why).  I have succesfully run Chipwits this way.
Give it a try and let the net know the results, maybe I'm just a unique
case or something. (no cracks please)

--
"Plan for the future because that's where you                Howard C. Simonson
    are going to spend the rest of your life." {hplabs,ihnp4,nsc}!amdahl!howard
         - Mark Twain -

[ The disclaimer for this message may be found in my next article ]


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Mac pics
Date: 17 Jan 87 17:07:49 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Toronto - Scarborough Campus "B" VAX

          I was wondering what the copyright situation was concerning
Mac pics released by the various commercial companies that are being
ported over to various machines.

          I've seen pics from the 'Mac the Knife' and many of
the other clipart products being shown at dealers and computer shows
on amiga/atari/IBM's.

          Are these things copyrighted and if so is it proper for
them to be used?

                    Nick
          nick@utcsscb@utcs

{allegra,ihnp4,decvax,pyramid}


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From: [e-mail] (Earle R. Horton)
Subject: Re: Mac+ to DMP 105 Printer or Other Printers???? HELP!!!!
Date: 18 Jan 87 00:10:06 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Frank,

     I wrote a simple desk accessory to allow my Mac 512 KE to print
text files on my Tandy DMP 110 dot-matrix printer.  I never made any
attempt to post or distribute it since I thought this to be a rather
obscure combination.  The desk accessory was written in TML Pascal
and was actually quite simple to write.  I will send you the stuff as
soon as I get it uploaded.  I am sending the source code, too.
Even if you don't have TML Pascal, the code is so simple that it
would be easy to transport it to any language.

     The DMP 110 has a 4-pin DIN connector used for RS-232
communications to the Tandy Color Computer.  Presumably the DMP 105
has a similar connector.  Here are the connections that will work
with the 512, hopefully the numbers on the Mac+ serial connectors are
the same, although the plug is not.  Pin #1 is not used.  Pin #2 is
the "Printer Ready" line of the DMP 110, and goes to pin #7 on the
512 serial port.  This is equivalent to pin #20 on a standard RS-232
connector.  Pin #3 is the  ground, and goes to pins #3 and #8 on the
512.  Pin #4 is the data in pin, and goes to #5 on the 512.  I would
assume that the numbers on the Mac+ serial connector are the same,
but maybe not.  The same applies to the DMP 105 vs. 110, but you
probably have a manual which will tell you for sure.

     The port I use on the DMP 110 operates at 1200 baud, and uses
a "hardware" (CTS) handshake.  This differs from the standard Mac
mode, which is 9600 baud and "software" (XON-XOFF) handshake.
This is fairly easy to get around if you write your own application
or desk accessory to print files, but means you can't really print
from within an application unless you want to write your own version
of the ImageWriter file (not likely, unless your masochism index is
quite high).  There is also a parallel port on the DMP 110, and
I have heard that the circuit to accomplish serial->parallel com-
munications is easy to build, but I haven't had the time to
investigate this.  If this port were used, the data rate would be
fast enough to support graphics, assuming you got around the format
conversion problem.

     There is one last thing to be aware of.  The DMP 110 uses a
carriage return (13 decimal or 15 octal) to signal a return to
column 1 AND a newline.  Apparently most computers, including the
Mac, assume that the printer will require both an carriage return
and a newline (10 decimal or 12 octal) to accomplish this.  If it
weren't for this difference, I could do all my printing using
Microsoft Word and the Typewriter driver that comes with it.  (If
I try to print on the DMP 110 using Word, I always get double
spacing because of the extra newline.)

     I am also posting this to comp.sys.mac.  If I get enough
requests for it, I will post the driver.


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From: [e-mail] (Dave Jenner)
Subject: Re: ChipWits
Date: 17 Jan 87 20:55:33 GMT
Organization: UW Astronomy, Seattle

Registered owners of ChipWits may return their original disk to
Brain Power and receive a version that runs on the Mac+.  I did,
it works.

--
Dave Jenner                     [phone], 543-2888 (Message)
Department of Astronomy, FM-20  BITNET: davej@uwaphast
University of Washington        UUCP: ...!uw-beaver!uw-entropy!phastvax!davej
Seattle, WA 98195               INTERNET: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Thomas Cox)
Subject: Need Irish Font!!
Date: 18 Jan 87 04:24:27 GMT
Organization: U of Chicago Generic MA Program

I am looking for an Old Irish font called Half Uncial [or is that
Unciel?  Foo].  If any of you, particularly at universities and
colleges, know someone not on the net who might have this, could
you possibly pass this request on?

If it exists I will mail anything I get to those who mail me
requests to that effect.  If you have this font, then send it
to me please.

Many thanks in advance, and let's try and share some of these
obscure foreign-language fonts across the net.  I know a dozen
people who use Macs in foreign-language work her alone, and
many of them try and create [w/ Fontastic et. al.] fonts that
already exist, but which they can't find easily.  H*ll, send
me a list of the foreign language fonts you have, and what language
they are, and I'll post a summary here.

Tom
...ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!benn


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From: [e-mail] (Ronald James Domes)
Subject: 68000 Development System Info Needed
Date: 16 Jan 87 19:56:32 GMT
Organization: Develcon Electronics, Saskatoon SK Canada

I just purchased the 68000 Development system for the Macintosh (Model M0524)
          and was planning to do some very involved application programming and
          was wondering if there were any 'quirks' about the Mac+ that this
          package is unaware of (it doesn't make any references to the Mac+).
          I have ordered the manual set 'Inside Macintosh' and ask the same
          question about this. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
As well, Is there anyone out there that makes an X.25 interface for the Mac+.
          I would like something that can connect to the SCSI port or better yet,
          be mounted internally.

                                                            Thanks in advance,
                                                              RonD

--

============================================================================
Super Tech .... Faster than a speeding ticket .... more powerful than garlic
          soup .... able to leap off of tall building in a single bound ....
============================================================================


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From: [e-mail] (beekman)
Subject: Re: Typing tutors for Mac
Date: 16 Jan 87 19:00:00 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University - Corvallis, OR

Two outstanding typing tutorials for the Mac:
Typing Made Easy, from Spinnaker.  Intelligent drills with a bonus Pac-Man
style maze typing game.
Typing Tutor III, from Simon and Scheuster.  Another good drill program with
an optional game called Rain that works sort of like Space Invaders.


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From: [e-mail] (David Whiteman)
Subject: Re: WriteNow
Date: 19 Jan 87 07:31:31 GMT
Organization: UCSD School of Medicine

T/Maker puts out a sample version of Write Now.  This version does
everything the regular version does; except when you print something
it prints as a header a statement that this document was produced
using WriteNow.  I have offerred to send a copy  of this sample
program to mod.mac.binaries, and I am waiting for the moderator to
make a decision about whether to post it or not.  It has a built in
spelling checker, and some features that the other word processing
programs do not have.  I do not have enough experience to say
whether it is better or worse than the current programs or  better
than the planned MS Word 3.0.  Its major flaw in my eyes is that you
have to run a separate translator program to convert text, MS Word
or MacWrite documents to WriteNow's format.  Also you can only
convert Write/Now documents to text.


--
David Whiteman,
University of California, San Diego

The America's Cup, don't leave Perth without it.


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Roberts)
Subject: MicroSoft f77
Date: 19 Jan 87 14:11:37 GMT
Organization: High Altitude Obs./NCAR, Boulder CO

I hate to post this but I can't seem to find a reference to version 2.2 of
MicroSoft's f77 compiler.  Also, is it true that version 2.1 DOES NOT WORK
UNDER HFS?  But version 2.2 does?

Thanks in advance for any info.

                                                                      Bill Roberts
                                                                      NCAR/HAO
                                                                      Boulder, CO
                                                                      UUCP: ...!hao!bill


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From: [e-mail] (Dean Radin)
Subject: mac parallel output?
Date: 19 Jan 87 16:40:43 GMT
Organization: Cognitive Science, Princeton University

Does anyone know if there's a device that would let a Mac or Mac+
talk to peripherals requiring centronix (parallel) interfaces?

- Dean Radin, Princeton University, ...!princeton!mind!dean


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From: [e-mail] (Larry Rosenstein)
Subject: Re: Porting IBM PC Applications (really MacApp)
Date: 19 Jan 87 16:51:03 GMT
Organization: Advanced Technology Group, Apple Computer

MPW supports writing programs in a mixture of Pascal, Assembler, & C, so the
same it true of MacApp.  The only requirement of MacApp is that you write
the basic user interface part of your program in Object Pascal (or Assembler
if you prefer).  Internally, you are not required to use object-oriented
programming at all so you can use standard Pascal or C.

If you were going to port a program from the IBM PC, it should be easy to
keep the internals of the program unchanged, and use MacApp to construct the
standard Macintosh user interface.

--
Larry Rosenstein

Object Specialist
Apple Computer

AppleLink: Rosenstein1
UUCP:  {sun, voder, nsc, mtxinu, dual}!apple!lsr
CSNET: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Ed Segall)
Subject: Help - Mac floppy repair/replace info needed
Date: 19 Jan 87 23:02:50 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I have a Mac with 400K drives which are not going to be upgraded. The
internal drive started making a scratching noise when the head seeks.
The disks were not damaged. I took it into a local Apple dealer
(Clancy-Paul in New Brunswick, NJ) who charged me $27.50 to tell me
"well, the problem is in the drive." Turns out that they only do
swaps, not repairs. The replacement would cost $124 plus the old
drive.

This is not reasonable - I can get an 800K external drive for $200 or
less, with no exhange (of course, it's not a Sony).

I "fixed" the problem by cleaning the leadscrew and lubricating it
with Tri-Flon(sp?), a Teflon+oil lubricant often used on bicycles. I
am concerned that the problem may develop again, since the noise is
not completely gone, though it is greatly reduced. If a problem
should develop again, and I do need to replace/repair the drive, I
will need to know if there is a source that will exchange the drive to
me, directly, for a reasonable price, like $80.00 or so for a new
drive, or $50.00 for a used, working drive.

Can I use the an external drive mechanism to replace the internal
drive? They look the same, except the extra circuit board in the
external.

Anyone know of a Mac drive source?

Anyone got a junk Mac with a good internal drive?

Any other ideas?

Thanks,

 Ed Segall

Replies to:

uucp:   ...{harvard, seismo, ut-sally, sri-iu, ihnp4!packard}!topaz!caip!segall
arpa:   [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Jim Meiss)
Subject: Left Handed MacPaint
Date: 19 Jan 87 23:12:46 GMT
Organization: UTexas Computation Center, Austin, Texas

          Thinking I knew all about those resources, and boasting to
some friends how easy it is to customize Macintosh applications, I was
convinced by a left handed friend that changing the pencil tool in
MacPaint to one that points to the left would be a good idea.
          So I open up MacPaint with ResEdit, and, what do you know but
the pencil doesn't seem to be anywhere! I thought it would be a cursor,
but no....
          Now there is this font called ".12" or something (this is
MacPaint 1.5), however, whenever I try to open this with ResEdit
1.0d12 (I think), ResEdit crashes.  Furthermore this font can't be
copied with the Font/DA Mover (3.2 I think).
          So what gives?  Does the pencil tool live in this font? How can I
edit it??

          Another question: is the Arrow cursor built into the ROM? How would
one go about customizing it? Are there any other frustrated lefty's out
there?

                                                            Jim Meiss
                                                            jdm@ut-ngp


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From: [e-mail] (henq)
Subject: PostScript source (in c for example) wanted
Date: 19 Jan 87 14:54:52 GMT

The institute I am workin at, wants to be able to generate PostScript
images on its Unix graphics system, (called MicroDutch -see january Byte).


So what we want is something like a PostScript interpreter in
c-source format, to which you  have to attach your own  hardware-
specific Screendrivers ( say, SetPixel() or BitBlt() ).


Any ideas out there in netland ? any hint is *very* much appriciated.


-Henk van Tijen

 mcvax!hvt@tnocsda


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From: [e-mail] (Marc Hannah)
Subject: Re: ChipWits
Date: 19 Jan 87 22:48:40 GMT
Organization: Stanford University

  I got a letter indicating that I could get a version of ChipWits which
worked on the Mac+. Unfortunately the cost of doing so was $15 or so.
Where are those patches on the net when we need them?

David Gelphman                  BITNET address: DAVEG@SLACVM
Bin #88 SLAC                    ARPANET address:  [e-mail]
Stanford, Calif. 94305          UUCP address: ...psuvax1!daveg%slacvm.bitnet
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From: [e-mail] (walter jeffries)
Subject: Helix & Double Helix
Date: 19 Jan 87 14:52:02 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Has anybody had any experience with Helix or Double-Helix?  I have a client who
uses it already and another that wants to use it.  I have heard rumors that it
loses data... not so good if true.

[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Gordon Hamachi)
Subject: Fall 1986 BMUG Newsletter?
Date: 19 Jan 87 20:29:22 GMT
Organization: CIMLINC, Inc. @ Menlo Park, CA

I'm still patiently waiting for my newsletter.  Does it exist,
or is it "vapor-paper"?

--Gordon Hamachi


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From: [e-mail] (pri=8 Ephraim Vishniac x76659 ms 014 590)
Subject: Re: Hard disks
Date: 16 Jan 87 14:13:30 GMT
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA

Last night, I repeated this rumor to Mark James of Jasmine Computer.  He
gave the following explanation of how such a false rumor might have
started.  Seagate does sell its disks with a variety of no-cost options.
So, it's true that the disks received by different purchasers are
different.  The difference is *not* in quality, however, and the differences
are at the customer's request.

For the ST225N, options include: noise
level (there's a "low-noise" 39dB option); LED; terminating resistors; and
mounting arrangements.  Mark cited two differences between the drives used
by Apple and those used by Jasmine: Jasmine uses Seagate's LED (what does
Apple do?) and Jasmine uses Seagate's terminating resistors (Apple makes
you buy a separate cable terminator for extra $$).

Ephraim Vishniac
decvax!wanginst!wang!ephraim

Claimer: I have a business relationship with Jasmine.  But you can call
and ask them for yourself.


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From: [e-mail] (Chris Capener)
Subject: Re: HalfTone
Date: 20 Jan 87 02:09:55 GMT
Organization: Corporate Computing Center

"HalfTone" works with "GrayMap" files", not with the normal "ScanImage"
documents.  "GrayMap" files are created by holding down the Option key while
re-halftoning a selected area.  Details of this process are found on page
4-30 of the 'new' manual.  Unfortunately, there is a bug in the ThunderScan
software which distorts the image in these files.  Documents scanned at 100%
look OK, but other magnifications get stretched.

I hope this helps.

Chris Capener
HP Laboratories
Palo Alto, CA

[phone]


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From: [e-mail] (Chris Capener)
Subject: Re: Please explain TextEdit feature...
Date: 20 Jan 87 02:21:07 GMT
Organization: Corporate Computing Center

>     I remember reading some time ago about a TextEdit bug...um, feature that
>sometimes shifts a TextEdit item (in a dialog, for instance) up by a pixel
>when you change it.

My limited experiences with this problem lead me to believe that it only
occurs when the bounding-box for the TextEdit item is too small for the
specified font.

Other opinions gladly accepted.

Chris Capener
HP Laboratories
Palo Alto, CA

hplabs!hpccc!capener


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From: [e-mail] (David Phillip Oster)
Subject: Re: IBM PC -> Imagewriter
Date: 19 Jan 87 19:50:23 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

The imagewriter I is basically a re-packaged C. Itoh printer (proprinter,
I think it is.) It defaults to 9600baud DTR-handshaking (It handshakes for
data on pin 20.) RS232-C standard Data Terminal (as opposed to data-modem)
device. To interface it to an IBM PC, you need a null modem cable, since
the PC's serial ports are also RS232-C Data Terminal devices. The
Imagewriter II is electrically and electronically almost the same, but has a
different cable end. I say _almost_ because it accepts a superset of the
control codes of the imagewriter I and because it was designed to be
compatible both with RS232-C and with Apple's Appletalk network.
To get this network compatibility Apple sacrificed power in the RS232-C
line-drivers in the Imagewriter II. Therefore I recommend using a cable
shorter than 12 feet long.

Here are the pinouts of the various plugs:
Apple's standard DB-9 9-pin connector as found on the back of Macs:
Pin       Name      Notes
1         Ground
2         +5v       absent on a MacPlus
3         Ground
4         TxD+      Transmit data plus (rs422-balanced line)
5         TxD-      Transmit data
6         +12v      you are strictly limited in the dat you can draw on this
7         HSK       Handskake - CTS or TRxC depending on Zilog 8530 mode
8         RxD+      Recieve data line (ground to emulate rs232)
9         RxD-      Recieve data minus

Imagewriter 1 DB-25 connector
Pin       Name      Notes
1         Frame Ground
2         SD        Output from Imagewriter
3         RD        Recieve data - input to Imagewriter
4         RTS       Ready To Send - output handshaking line from imagewriter
7         Ground    signals are referenced to this
14        FAULT-    False when deselected, output from Imagewriter
20        DTR       Data terminal Ready - output from Imagewriter

The important ones are 3 7 and 20.

The Mac to Imagewriter cable uses
Mac Pin   Name                Imagewriter Pin     Notes
1         Ground              1
3         Sig.Ground          7                   Mac pins 3,8 are jumpered together
5         TxD-  --> RD        3                   Data to Imagewriter
7         HSK   <-- DTR       20                  Handshake from Imagewriter
8         RxD+ (MacPin3)                          Not connected on Imagewriter side
9         RxD-  <-- SD        2                   Data from imagewriter

The mac queries the imagewriter for an id code, so it can adjust itself to
what model of imagewriter it is talking to. Ordinarily, you should not
need to worry about this.

My guess on the cable you'll need to connect an imagewriter I to an IBM
is:
IBM Pin   Name                Imagewriter Pin Notes
2         SD --> RD 3                   Main printer data
3         RD <-- SD 2
4,5       RTS <-- DTR         20                  IBM pins 4,5 are jumpered together
7         signal ground       7
6,8,20    DTR                                     IBM pins 6,8,20 are jumpered together

If you have an imagewriter II, you'll need the following conversion
between the Mac DB-9 connector and the Mac DIN-8 connector.

looking at the pins of a male cable, the DIN-8 pins are numbered:
   6 7 8
   3 4 5
    1 2
The adapter cable, Apple Part # M0187, cable assembly part #590-0341-A
available at an apple dealer for about $15.00 is wired
DIN-8 pin Name      DB-9
1         +12v      6
2         HSK       7
3         TxD-      5
4         Ground    3
5         RxD-      9
6         TxD+      4
7         not connected
8         RxD+      8

This information is my interpretation of Apple Tech Notes 10 and 65.
--- David Phillip Oster                 -- "The goal of Computer Science is to
Arpa: [e-mail]  -- build something that will last at
Uucp: ucbvax!ucblapis!oster     -- least until we've finished building it."


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From: [e-mail] (David Phillip Oster)
Subject: Re: Need Irish Font!!
Date: 19 Jan 87 20:04:09 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

Robin Wood
80 Princeton Arms N-1
Cranbury, N.J. 08512

+---+
| S |ells a disk called "Arts and Crafts" for $15.00 that includes a
+---+ beautiful half-Uncial font called "Prydain", a rune font, and and ogham
font. Also on the disk is a font called "Caer Dathyl" that has the bizarre
property that it takes up two lines for each letter so that you can do
paragraphs that look like this one, with a fancy, "illuminated" initial
letter that spans two lines, in MacWrite.  Also on the disk are many
beautiful MacPaint files, containing images tied to the seasons and to the
pagan religion. I give this disk my highest recommendation.
--- David Phillip Oster                 -- "We live in a Global Village."
Arpa: [e-mail]  --
Uucp: ucbvax!ucblapis!oster     -- "You are Number Six."


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From: [e-mail] (David Phillip Oster)
Subject: Re: Typing tutors for Mac
Date: 19 Jan 87 20:06:43 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

Another video-game style typing instruction program is Mastertype.


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From: [e-mail] (David Phillip Oster)
Subject: Re: mac parallel output?
Date: 19 Jan 87 21:58:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

You arek. The Microsoft Mac-Enhancer, a box that adds standard
RS232-C serial ports and a Centronics parallel port to the macintosh, and
comes with software to drive many printers, has been re-introduced by
SoftStyle (I think) in Hawaii, the people who do LaserStart and EpsonStart
(the laserjet and Epson mx-80 drivers.)


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From: [e-mail] (David Phillip Oster)
Subject: Re: Irish Font
Date: 20 Jan 87 06:54:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

Another nice font is Iona, in 14 point and 18 point.
The font is half-uncial, and is inspired by the book of Kells. To get a
disk containing it, send $10.00 to:
Iona Font
Leigh A. Hussey
2240 Blake #308
Berkeley, Ca. 94704


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From: [e-mail] (Chuq Von Rospach)
Subject: Mac memory upgrades
Date: 20 Jan 87 05:47:45 GMT

It is becoming obvious that 512K is simply not enough for what I'm doing
anymore (sigh... I remember thattart
looking at upgrades.  My initial thought is to simply upgrade to a Mac+,
since that gives me a clear upgrade path into the beyond and whatever
comes next (assuming, of course, that there is an upgrade...).  I am still
interested in third party upgrades, though, if they meet the following
requirements:

    o The company needs to have a good track record -- garage shops
    need not apply.  Too many third party houses have disappeared for
    my tastes, I can't afford to be without my machine while people
    fingerpoint at a failed upgrade.

    o There has to be a SCSI port (or option to add SCSI) as part of the
    upgrade.  My paradise 10 is nice, but it isn't forever.

    o The cost of the upgrade (1M+SCSI+install) has to be cost effective
    compared to going to Apple and getting it done 'right.'

Now, this has been covered a few times before, but I don't have my notes on
it.  Besides, the third party market has changed markedly in the last six
months, t to byte
the bullet, I guess).

So, if you can comment on the upgrade situation, please MAIL me your
comments.  Don't post to the net, I'll summarize anything I get after all is
said and done.

chuq
Chuq Von Rospach    [e-mail]

It's only a model...


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From: [e-mail] (Jim Cathey)
Subject: Re: Mac+ to DMP 105 Printer or Other Printers???? HELP!!!!
Date: 19 Jan 87 17:01:13 GMT
Organization: ISC Systems Corporation, Spokane, Wa.

The Mac uses hardware handshaking as well, except for the very early 128K Mac
software.  (There was an erratum sheet telling you how to change the DIP
switches in the printer to hardware [from software] handshaking).

+----------------+
! II      CCCCCC !  Jim Cathey
! II  SSSSCC     !  ISC Systems Corp.
! II      CC     !  Spokane, WA
! IISSSS  CC     !  UUCP: ihnp4!tektronix!reed!iscuva!jimc
! II      CCCCCC !  [phone]
+----------------+
                              "With excitemenm: [e-mail] (Eric Fielding)
Subject: Lightspeed C debugger
Date: 20 Jan 87 22:26:33 GMT
Organization: Dept. Geol. Sci., Cornell University, Ithaca NY

I was wondering why there is no source-level debugger in Lightspeed C like the
one in Lightspeed Pascal.  I am an "applications" programmer that has no
or little interest in the contents of the registers or doing assembler-level
debugging.  How do other users feel about this?

                                        ++Eric Fielding

DARPA Internet:    [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Eric Fielding)
Subject: DA to draw HFS tree?
Date: 20 Jan 87 22:34:37 GMT
Organization: Dept. Geol. Sci., Cornell University, Ithaca NY

We have a great program on our VMS Vax that will draw the directory
tree structure.  I was wondering if anyone had heard of a Mac
application or DA that can do this.  A DA that drew the tree and then
allowed oprogram, if it worked well.
Hard disks can get pretty well cluttered with folders. (and it is not
mine to arrange in the way that I would best work with :-)

                                        ++Eric Fielding

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From: [e-mail] (Earle R. Horton)
Subject: uw question
Date: 20 Jan 87 23:23:08 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

     I'm running uw 3.4a using the v3 server on a BSD4.3 UNIX machine.
When I use emacs on the UNIX machine, I use the "custom" keyboard map
with the option key used for meta-prefixing.  (Hold down option and
"d", get ESC-d.)  This is very handy for emacs escape-prefixed
commands (by the way, it's Gosling emacs).  Here is my problem:
When I program in FORTRAN (okay, okay, I admit I program in FORTRAN),
I telnet over to the local VMS system and use microEMACS 3.7 to
edit files.  (I have altered tadm31; it's nice.)  When I attempt to use the escape prefix option
key in the VMS window, it's no good.  Hold down option-d; I just get
a "d".
     Apparently, the adm31 emulator in uw is using something like
the "\E=" sequence used by dec terminals to turn on the application
keypad, or whatever the adm31 equivalent is.  And apparently, Gosling
emacs knows what it is.  My question:  What is it?  It appears to me
that if I can get microEMACS to send the right commands to the uw window
it will go into "application" mode and then option-prefix-meta will work.
     If anyone knows the magic character sequence for the adm31, I would
be most grateful if he/she would impart this knowledge to me somehow.


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From: [e-mail] (J. Collymore)
Subject: Need Comparative Info on AMIGA vs. MAC+ for use in a MIDI system
Date: 21 Jan 87 16:20:21 GMT
Organization: CSEd, AT&T Communications, Piscataway, N.J.

I am seriously looking to add a computersoftware and MIDI interfaces need to go with it.

I have also started to hear talk about the speed, graphics and power of the
AMIGA for MIDI.

Wt I'd like to know is, what is the cost of the AMIGA (and a printer) versus
the MAC+?  Are they both equally easy to use?  Is one more versatile than the
other?  How's the support for them?  Is there as much music sotware
available for the AMIGA as there seem to be for the MAC+?

Please send me e-mail if you have ANY knowledge about the above.  I would
really appreciate it.

Thanks.


                                                            Jim Collymore


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